Not debating that. Just want to know which ones have already sorted offshore contract options at this stage, separating them from ones who will do so as a result. There may be others offered sevens contracts, or having an injury lay-off.
Thanks Stargazer - I just picked up the Chris Eaton one. Also noted a handful picked for other nations, like Nansen, Lokotui, Brighouse.
@Rapido they were pretty selective of what replays they showed though! At one point we had a corner and immediately afterwards they showed a replay of the corner Peru scored from about 20 minutes earlier which had me confused. Also didn't show a replay of Barbarouses being taken down in the penalty box in the first 18 seconds. Ref was never going to have the balls to call that though!
As for the process.
I expressed my reservations earlier before the report was produced about a consulting firm coming up with a recommendation that the council was then ‘expected’ to vote for. There is more to a world cup selection than bureaucratic box-ticking. I thought the report would recommend France.
When the actual report came out, it seemed a bit weird how some of the criteria were rated anyway. So, I’m not fussed it wasn’t binding.
Moving forward: The report process should remain included. But is should change:
Stay confidential until after the vote. Way too much press fuss was made of the ranking of the 3 bids. These were probably 3 of the best bids in IRB history. Who care if one has 78 points and another 73 according to some bureaucratic consulting criteria. They’re both still good.
The report should not produce a recommendation. It should just rate bids in certain criteria for the representatives to read and consider. Probably shouldn’t even sum up the points.
The report should weed out the spectacularly inappropriate (E.g. Qatar). Maybe have a weather and a % of un-built stadium criteria that is a no-go line.
The value of using independent consultants - as it should be just 1 or 2 consultants visiting and assessing the host bids. We don’t want 30 odd administrators, some of them obscure, visiting all 3 bidding nations over a 2-year period to admire the new bus stop outside a stadium before returning to their presidential hotel suite and being plied with hookers and cocaine. Reduce costs by having only to tempt the consultant …..
I don’t mind the horse trading between unions. I don’t mind that NZRU offered IRU an extra (revenue sharing) test in Dublin. I don’t mind that the 1999 RWC in Wales was farmed out over 5 countries with expected returned future favours. They are rugby decisions, not personal corruption. I don’t mind that the continental federations etc. want to vote for France if it means bugger future IRB dividends heading their way, these guys deserve a voice.
I think moving forward we should probably do this only every 8 years with 2 hosts decided at a time (like the 2015 & 2019 venue being decided at the same time). This will allow bidding unions to direct their efforts more realistically and probably see a ‘fairer’ geographic distribution of future tournaments.
@taniwharugby whilst completely ignoring the late shoulder charge on Lima ...
My point abut "accidentally" is it is not illegal to jostle for position while running in open play. Falling over is not illegal. Playing the opposing player with your arm(s) is, even if just to steady yourself: that was penalisable. He was YCed for as a result of falling over. I disagreed with that and still do.
As opposed to Pat T who I was surprised didn't get carded (refer other thread).
See ... I'm not completely biased
It wasn't a 50/50 shoulder to shoulder jostle for position though. Goodhue was in by far the worst spot using his arms.
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