2016 TSF Team of the Year



  • It's that time of the year again. I know you've all been waiting for it!!

    The 12th (Usually*) Annual The Silver Fern Dot Com Team of the Year !!

    yay! yay!

    Nomination threads are set up in the TSF Competitions Forum http://www.thesilverfern.com/category/8/tsf-competitions coz I don't know where the Team of the Year forum went.

    Rules are pretty much the same as usual:

    1. Nominate players by position. Include your reasons for doing so. Only in the odd minority of cases will nominations be accepted without supporting argument (i.e., Beauden Barrett).

    2. This is your opportunity to argue against other nominations as well. Feel free to pile in.

    3. Nominated players must have played at least one test match this year. Regardless of that form in competitions below international level is still admissible as evidence in support of a nominee.

    4. The Judging Committee (me) reserves the right to accept, reject or laugh hysterically at any or all nominations.

    5. Any situation not covered by the above rules will be dealt with by making up further rules on the spot.

    A full* list of TSF ToTYs since 2005 follows (edit: in a later post ... this one takes up too much room).

    • except for 2014 which inexplicably I did not summarise and publish. D'oh.


  • Folks

    Have updated the OP on each of the individual threads with comments gleaned from the "World XV" thread.

    Will go through the threads and pick up further comments and nominees when I get back around to it.

    Feel free to add pros or cons to existing nominees as necessary.

    Cheers

    And following are previous ToTYs:

    No. Surname First Name Country % of Vote
    2005
    1. Woodcock Tony NZL 79.7%
    2. Mealamu Keven NZL 57.7%
    3. Hayman Carl NZL 97.0%
    4. Williams Ali NZL 63.4%
    5. Matfield Victor RSA 77.4%
    6. Collins Jerry NZL 56.4%
    7. McCaw Richie NZL 88.4%
    8. So'oialo Rodney NZL 37.8%
    9. Ellisalde Jean-Baptiste FRA 39.2%
    10. Carter Dan NZL 93.3%
    12. Umaga Tana NZL 77.4%
    13. Jauzion Yannick FRA 62.0%
    11. Habana Brian RSA 45.0%
    14. Rokocoko Joe NZL 57.8%
    15. Latham Chris AUS 43.2%
    2006
    1. Woodcock Tony NZL 70.0%
    2. Mealamu Keven NZL 71.0%
    3. Hayman Carl NZL 91.0%
    4. Matfield Victor RSA 58.0%
    5. O’Connell Paul IRE 44.0%
    6. Collins Jerry NZL 70.0%
    7. McCaw Richie NZL 74.0%
    8. So'oialo Rodney NZL 47.0%
    9. Kelleher Byron NZL 32.0%
    10. Carter Daniel NZL 93.0%
    12. McAlister Luke NZL 30.0%
    13. O’Driscoll Brian IRE 62.0%
    11. Sivivatu Sitiveni NZL 64.0%
    14. Rokocoko Josevata NZL 68.0%
    15. Latham Chris AUS 49.0%
    2007
    1. Sheridan Andrew ENG 40.0%
    2. Smit John RSA 64.6%
    3. Hayman Carl NZL 66.7%
    4. Matfield Victor RSA 85.8%
    5. Williams Ali NZL 62.0%
    6. Collins Jerry NZL 68.1%
    7. McCaw Richie NZL 45.5%
    8. Longo Gonzalo ARG 40.4%
    9. du Preez Fourie RSA 60.0%
    10. Hernandez Juan Martin ARG 61.7%
    12. Contepomi Philippe ARG 57.6%
    13. Mortlock Stirling AUS 75.0%
    11. Habana Brian RSA 87.4%
    14. Howlett Doug NZL 78.2%
    15. Montgomery Percy RSA 42.2%
    2008
    1. Woodcock Tony NZL 80.0%
    2. Moore Stephen AUS 33.0%
    2. Hore Andrew NZL 33.0%
    3. Somerville Greg NZL 57.0%
    4. Williams Ali NZL 50.0%
    5. Thorn Brad NZL 80.0%
    6. Kaino Jerome NZL 64.0%
    7. McCaw Richard NZL 90.0%
    8. So'oialo Rodney NZL 74.0%
    9. Weepu Piri NZL 28.0%
    10. Carter Daniel NZL 100.0%
    12. Mortlock Stirling AUS 38.0%
    12. de Villiers Jean RSA 38.0%
    12. Nonu Ma’a NZL 38.0%
    13. Smith Conrad NZL 66.0%
    11. Sivivatu Sitiveni NZL 52.0%
    14. Williams Shane WAL 52.0%
    15. Muliaina Mils NZL 83.0%
    2009
    1. WOODCOCK Tony NZL 43%
    2. DuPLESSIS Bismark RSA 71%
    3. CASTROGIOVANNI Martin ITA 53%
    4. BOTHA Bakkies RSA 50%
    5. MATFIELD Victor RSA 78%
    6. DUSAUTOIR Thierry FRA 27%
    7. McCAW Richie NZL 71%
    8. SPIES Pierre RSA 37%
    9. DuPREEZ Fourie RSA 81%
    10. CARTER Dan NZL 80%
    12. ROBERTS Jamie WAL 64%
    13. SMITH Conrad NZL 74%
    11. SIVIVATU Sitiveni NZL 66%
    14. JANE Cory NZL 64%
    15. KEARNEY Rob IRE 58%
    2010
    1. JENKINS Gethin WAL 58%
    2. MEALAMU Keven NZL 56%
    3. CASTROGIOVANNI Martin ITA 36%
    4. MATFIELD Victor RSA 58%
    5. THORN Brad NZL 60%
    6. KAINO Jerome NZL 86%
    7. McCaw Richard NZL 81%
    8. READ Kieran NZL 91%
    9. YOUNGS Ben ENG 33%
    10. CARTER Daniel NZL 95%
    12. NONU Ma’a NZL 85%
    13. SMITH Conrad NZL 53%
    11. MITCHELL Drew AUS 52%
    14. JANE Corey NZL 74%
    15. MULIAINA Malili NZL 52.50%
    2011
    1. WOODCOCK Tony NZL 66%
    2. MEALAMU Keven NZL 64%
    3. FRANKS Owen NZL 88%
    4. THORN Brad NZL 73%
    5. MATFIELD Victor RSA 41%
    6. KAINO Jerome NZL 100%
    7. McCAW Richard NZL 61%
    8. READ Kieran NZL 43%
    9. GENIA Will AUS 30%
    10. CARTER Dan NZL 82%
    12. NONU Ma'a NZL 94%
    13. SMITH Conrad NZL 89%
    11. IOANE Digby AUS 86%
    14. O'CONNOR James AUS 49%
    15. BEALE Kurtley AUS 60%
    2012
    1 TAUMALOLO Sona TGA 45%
    2 HORE Andrew NZL 88%
    3 JONES Adam WAL 45%
    4 SHARPE Nathan AUS 62%
    5 WHITELOCK Samuel NZL 58%
    6 LOBBE Juan Fernandez ARG 35%
    7 McCAW Richard NZL 97%
    8 READ Kieran NZL 76%
    9 FOTUALI'I Kahn SAM 84%
    10 CARTER Dan NZL 83%
    12 WILLIAMS Sonny Bill NZL 69%
    13 SMITH Conrad NZL 84%
    11 SAVEA Julian NZL 80%
    14 JANE Corey NZL 93%
    15 DAGG Israel NZL 67%
    coach HANSEN Steve NZL 58%
    2013
    1 CORBISERO Alex ENG 52%
    2 Du PLESSIS Bismark RSA 81%
    3 JONES Adam WAL 59%
    4 RETALLICK Brodie NZL 79%
    5 WHITELOCK Samuel NZL 71%
    6 MESSAM Liam NZL 60%
    7 HOOPER Michael AUS 40%
    8 READ Kieran NZL 100%
    9 SMITH Aaron NZL 72%
    10 CRUDEN Aaron NZL 65%
    12 FOFANA Wesley FRA 57%
    13 SMITH Conrad NZL 96%
    11 SAVEA Julian NZL 63%
    14 SMITH Benjamin NZL 92%
    15 HALFPENNY Leigh WAL 62%
    coach HANSEN Steve NZL 90%
    2014
    oops … sorry …
    2015
    1 AYERZA Marcos ARG 62%
    2 COLES Dane NZL 65%
    3 HERRERA Ramiro ARG 40%
    3 KEPU Sekope AUS 40%
    4 RETTALLICK Brodie NZL 90%
    5 WHITELOCK Samuel NZL 86%
    6 FARDY Scott AUS 39%
    7 McCAW Richard NZL 100%
    8 POCOCK David AUS 38%
    9 SMITH Aaron NZL 100%
    10 CARTER Daniel NZL 95%
    12 NONU Ma'a NZL 100%
    13 SMITH Conrad NZL 56%
    11 IMHOFF Juan ARG 45%
    14 MILNER-SKUDDER Nehe NZL 73%
    15 SMITH Ben NZL 74%
    coach HANSEN Steve NZL 74%


  • Just wondering before I put any votes in....

    Can I vote for McCaw again? He played domestically and internationally (in cinemas) and his performance was outstanding. I have watched the replay time and time again and can't find a fault.



  • I can't beleive Hooper won in 2013!



  • @Hooroo said in 2016 TSF Team of the Year:

    I can't beleive Hooper won in 2013!

    Who says we're biased?



  • Hey all
    When I get a chance I'll update the OPs of each position with the additional nominees and aim for the weekend to convert them to polls.

    Given it's holidays I'll leave the polls open for say a week into the New Year (which is basically a fortnight any way) before we announce the team ... if I remember this year ...



  • I don't know why we run this. It's going to be a bunch of All Blacks, some Irishmen because they beat us (only if we can't find a stand out AB), and a token English player because they won a bunch.



  • @mariner4life said in 2016 TSF Team of the Year:

    I don't know why we run this. It's going to be a bunch of All Blacks, some Irishmen because they beat us (only if we can't find a stand out AB), and a token English player because they won a bunch.

    Go forth, young padawan



  • @MajorRage said in 2016 TSF Team of the Year:

    @mariner4life said in 2016 TSF Team of the Year:

    I don't know why we run this. It's going to be a bunch of All Blacks, some Irishmen because they beat us (only if we can't find a stand out AB), and a token English player because they won a bunch.

    Go forth, young padawan

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  • @mariner4life cos we can?

    Plus it'll give the Irish posters something to moan about when they don't get 15 in the starting 15 :)



  • @mariner4life said in 2016 TSF Team of the Year:

    I don't know why we run this. It's going to be a bunch of All Blacks, some Irishmen because they beat us (only if we can't find a stand out AB), and a token English player because they won a bunch.

    Kind of coz I enjoy it. And I do like to see who everyone thinks is the best.

    And we're the best judges of who is good and who is not :)

    FYI. kind of sad but did you know that not a single Saffa has been nominated (unless they're playing for Ireland ... or Scotland ... )



  • For some reason I can't convert the original threads to polls ... will have to create new ones.

    May see if I can consolidate them after that.

    Got to this a bit later than I intended. Will keep polls open for 10 days or a couple of weeks or so.

    Feel free to vote when set up.

    Cheers



  • OK - have eventually put up the polls. Vote away if and as interested.



  • I wonder if the Canterbury voting block will see Crotty selected at 12 and 13?



  • @mariner4life said in 2016 TSF Team of the Year:

    @MajorRage said in 2016 TSF Team of the Year:

    @mariner4life said in 2016 TSF Team of the Year:

    I don't know why we run this. It's going to be a bunch of All Blacks, some Irishmen because they beat us (only if we can't find a stand out AB), and a token English player because they won a bunch.

    Go forth, young padawan

    alt text

    Gratuitous upvote for Star Wars reference right there.



  • OK Folks.

    I suspect we can all see the results of the polls as I'm not being bombarded to publish the results.

    Am not going to go with a full on "press release" this year - as I'm not feeling particularly creative. Teams is as below.

    Am a little surprised with some of the selections and there is plenty of fodder for the NZ haters and cultural cringers to whinge about NZers being selected.

    Anyway - the 2016 TSF ToTY, consisting 11 All Blacks, 11 Oirish, 1 Argie and coached by a England-resident Japanese-Australian, is:

    No. Surname First Name Country % of vote Comment
    2015
    1 McGRATH Jack IRE 67%
    2 COLES Dane NZL 90%
    3 FRANKS Owen NZL 61%
    4 RETALLICK Brodie NZL 72%
    5 WHITELOCK Samuel NZL 88%
    6 KAINO Jerome NZL 58%
    7 CANE Sam NZL 30%
    8 ISA Facundo ARG 60%
    9 SMITH Aaron NZL 42%
    10 BARRETT Beauden NZL 100% (unopposed)
    12 HENSHAW Robbie IRE 40%
    13 LIENERT-BROWN Anton NZL 42%
    11 ZEBO Simon IRE 47%
    14 DAGG Israel NZL 79%
    15 SMITH Ben NZL 100% (unopposed)
    coach JONES Eddie ENG 58%


  • Crikey there's a shitload of countries not represented there.



  • Of most interest to me was the Bokke not getting even one nomination.



  • @booboo said in 2016 TSF Team of the Year:

    Of most interest to me was the Bokke not getting even one nomination.

    Being shit has that effect



  • Clearly the Irish voting block was more powerful than the Cantab voting block at 12 .... Even I voted for Crotty and it didn't help.



  • Of more note than no SA players is the lack of any English players bar the coach. Eddie must be some coach to get a bunch of nobodies going through an entire season unbeaten...


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